Terra Incognita

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  Which one of these men will you kill...if either?

  by Terry in

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  i like to perform "thinking experiments" like einstein use to do.

  of course, he was better equipped for it than i am.

  but, dash it all, i do anyway.. i imagine two men sitting side by side in a train station waiting on a train.. they more are less look like fairly "normal" people.

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  Berengaria:

  "Choose one at random. If it's the research scientist the outcome is the same. If it's the serial killer the world is cured of cancer and eleven people see another day."

  OUTLAW: "Flip a coin.."

  OUTLAW beat me to it.

  thetrueone:

  Since the consequences of making the wrong decision are so high, most people would refrain from pushing any button

  Some consequences are higher than others. It's clear in this situation which one would be worse; and to what extent.

  ProdigalSon: "Can't take a chance on killing the research scientist, gotta pass and leave it in the hands of a higher authority... "

  If you don't believe in a moral "higher authority", would He/She/It really condemn you for taking such actions? If you do believe in a moral "higher authority, how would you know that He/She/It is either testing you or is neutral so long as you don't commit any willful immoral actions?

  Furthermore, doesn't this assumption that only a moral "authority" has the right to take life, condemn soldiers and policemen; especially in view of the fact that they can sometimes make inevitable mistakes and kill someone innocent?

  If this "higher authority" did condemn any of the above for taking such action, how moral an authority would it be?
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  Twenty Centimeters!!!

  by tec in

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  we have hit ten centimeters and counting of snow.

  unbelievable, lol.

  yesterday it was green.

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  therevealer: "about 10 inches"

  Actually 8 inches. Which led m to believe this thread was about something else.
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  Conservative Catholic Bill Donohue Regarding Priest Child Rape: "They Weren't Children And They Weren't Raped"

  by Justitia Themis in

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  ...they were adolescents and they were just touched.

  his writing is eerily reminiscent of jw apologists.. .

  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2fc%2fa%2f2011%2f04%2f12%2fddue1iuco1.dtl.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKLlxAgMO-w

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvLPLGHD_OI&feature=related
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  Sincerest apologies from Terra Incognita

  by Terra Incognita in

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  my sincerest apologies to anyone and everyone on this forum who read my first two threads.. i guess i started posting at a bad time in my life.

  not too thoughtful of me but not insincere.

  i have always been a little lacking in the social graces department partly because of my jw upbringing.

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  Thank you all.
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  Sincerest apologies from Terra Incognita

  by Terra Incognita in

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  my sincerest apologies to anyone and everyone on this forum who read my first two threads.. i guess i started posting at a bad time in my life.

  not too thoughtful of me but not insincere.

  i have always been a little lacking in the social graces department partly because of my jw upbringing.

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  My sincerest apologies to anyone and everyone on this forum who read my first two threads.

  I guess I started posting at a bad time in my life. Not too thoughtful of me but not insincere. I have always been a little lacking in the social graces department partly because of my JW upbringing. What would have been a forthright and honest temperament was twisted by them into an overly blunt and occasionally rude one.
  
  I appreciate the support from those who tried to make me feel welcome, particularly you tec. However, I think I should stop posting altogether as I have made a bad first impression on others. People either love me or hate me and that's partly due to which side of me they see first. Again I'm sorry to have offended anyone. Bye.

  TI
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  Isn't It Time For Darwinists To Face The Music Of Science?

  by Perry in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1icjkwzeee&feature=related.

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  thetrueone:

  "So other words Perry, you are making the statement with this video that the earth as it is formed today

  is only a few thousand years old, . . ."

  " There is also the earth's own geographical evolution that would also suggest a supporting part of biological evolution in unison."

  Thetrueone; while I don't know Perry's stand on this issue, there are other Creationists who are not "Young Earther's". That is what those Creationists who believe in a recent creation for the earth and universe call themselves. So I believe it would be wise to query Perry on that specific point before we assume that he is a "Young Earther".
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  Isn't It Time For Darwinists To Face The Music Of Science?

  by Perry in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1icjkwzeee&feature=related.

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  Perry, the claim in the introductory captions, that scientists are shifting their opinions of evolution sounds like braggadocio. The reason is that there is no such paradigm shift amongst evolutionary scientists or the majority of other scientists. Even if the scientist were to be a creationist, he would not be "shifting" his opinion on anything since he was already committed to Creationism.

  The biochemist you are quoting, Michael J Behe, is a known Intelligent Design proponent. I haven't seen anything in the video that indicates a stampede or at least a minor exodus of scientists "shifting" their opinions from evolution to Creationism.

  The only thing the video talks about is the issue of "Irreducible Complexity" which is an old argument dressed up in a new phrase. In fact it parallels the change from Creationism to "Intelligent Design". This argument is basically the old "How can a watch have made itself?".

  Like Goddidit brought out, the claims "Irreducible complexity" have been, contrary to what Creationists claim, answered by scientists. And to quote Goddidit:

  "I can see how people that don't understand evolution might find this compelling but that's only because they don't understand evolution."

  So I ask you Perry, have you ever read a book on evolution by those who believe in it? More so, have you ever read a book that responds to Creationists/Intelligent Designers on the arguments that they pose?
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  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony

  by Perry in

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  a dear member of my congregation gives his testimony from shite muslim to christian.

  emery told me once that his father told him that the only reason he's still alive is because of the laws of the u.s. otherwise he'd be required to kill him.. kinda puts puts jw shunning in a "new light"..... somebody always has it worse.

  kinda lenghty but well worth it.

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  Perry: A person simply cannot obey man and Jesus.

  Perry, based on what I've read, you emphasize personal testimonials as evidence of Jesus interacting with you. That is the equivalent of believing in Jesus because of what "man" (some "men") has to say about him.

  Why should anyone take your "human" testimonials, from your particular group of Christians, as evidence of anything? Especially when other religions, that are condemned by yours as false could have similar testimonials?
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  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony - Part 2

  by Perry in

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  "god doesn't exist.

  all the things you think god did for you really just came from yourself.".

  that's what believers hear all the time after they tell a secularist about the amazing things they experience as a result of an exchanged life with jesus.. self-abandonment and an exchanged life with jesus works.

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  What happens when people, from a non-Christian religion, give the same type of testimonials?
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  Anyone Read the "Left Behind" series by Tim LaHaye?

  by lovelylil in

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  i just started reading book 1 of the left behind series.

  it is very interesting.

  i remember when the jw's used to condem these books as well as a lot of others.

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  I saw the old original trilogy in the 1980s. It was hideous. I also saw a video based on the current series of books. Slightly less ridiculous but corny as heck.

  I don't believe in its premise anyways but if I did I would be embarassed.